Antoine QUINET

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• WikiTree Link: Quinet-8

Antoine married Monique MARIZOT on 20 Feb 1781 in Contraglise, Haute-Saune, France. Monique was born on 27 Dec 1750 in Contraglise, Haute-Saune, France; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• WikiTree Link: Quinet-7
• FamilySearch ID: LC8P-3TY
• Baptism: 14 Aug 1782, La Paroisse de Contréglise, Département de Haute-Saône (Franche-Compté), France
• Immigration: 1832
• Residence: Between 1832 and 1841, Syracuse, Onondaga, New York, United States
• Naturalization: 8 Aug 1841, Onondaga, New York, United States
• Occupation: 1850–1860; Farmer
• Residence: 1855–1860, Fredonia, Ozaukee, Wisconsin, United States

Notes:

In addition to being a weaver (tisserand) it seems that Pierre was also an iron monger and dealer in hardware. Jacques Charbonnier, who discovered this information, explains it this way: "(Translation by RLQ) "On the subject of Pierre, before he was married at age 28 he worked as a weaver at Contréglise in the house of his father or another person in his family .... He was perhaps an apprentice, then a companion, but he was not the'patron (boss)'. After his marriage he set up his home at Menoux, the village of his wife, and it is there that he had his children. At Menoux, he worked for his own family and [apparently --RLQ] wanted to take on another more profitable occupation and became a hardware merchant, an iron monger. I have often run across this change of occupation among my ancestors after their marriage. After arriving in the US, he worked where he could, perhaps odd jobs downtown to start ... but in the countryside there was a place for them, so he became a farmer as indicated in the census.: Jacques Charbonnier (email, jacques.charbonnier@free.fr, 23 June 2004, Subject: Re: La famille QUINET-GRANGIER ... Commentaires !)



Dates of marriages of children place La Famille Quinet in Wisconsin between 1841 (marriage of Polly) and 1845 (marriages of Nicolas and Emily Frances), and the births of the first two children of Moise-Joseph Runnoe and Pauline Quinet further narrows the move to Wisconsin to the period between May 1842 (Josephine Runnoe born in NY) and 3 Nov 1844 (Isaac Runnoe born in WI). This, of course, assumes that the extended family all moved together (quite a logical assumption in those days). See individual records.

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The following -- together with wrong turns and dead ends -- traces a research project to find where the Quinet ancestors came from in France. The project did not culminate until 16 June 2004: Robert L. Quinnett.



According to Jennie Philpott, who died in Canada in 1951, the Quinet family came from a place which sounded to her like "Min New." : Letter from Jennie Philpott in the possession of Robert L. Quinnett. She was recalling what she had heard as a child. She could neither read nor write French, and that was the best way she could pronounce the place her mother used to talk about. If one measures about 20 miles north of the approximate edge of the city limits of Paris, there is a place called Mouy on the Thèrain River about 12-13 miles SE of Beauvais. If one measures from the center of Paris, it hits on the Oise River somewhere between Chembly and Chantilly, but angling it a little to the west hits at a town called Mery-sur-Oise. On 25 March 1999 Robert L. Quinnett checked for telephone numbers belonging to anyone named Quinet in the area referred to above, namely in the valley of the Oise (Val d'Oise--95000). Only one Quinet (Jean-Baptiste) was found in the town of Pontoise @ 01 30 31 16 72. Some names similar to Quinet (orthographic) were found, however: a Quenet in Pontoise and Chainay, Cuennet and Quesné on up the Thèrain river in Beauvais



The two towns above don't sound like "Min-New." Mouy sounds like "Moo-ee" and Mery sounds like "Mair-ee". Neither fit, but it's possible that Jennie, a child, misunderstood an entire conversation or comment and that the word or words referred to something else entirely, not a location from which the family came. Also, by the time she wrote the letter in the forties, she might have forgotten what it sounded like.

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In 1982, a descendant of Octavia Quinet and Peter Neuens, stated that the Quinet Family came from "Minuex" France, close to Paris: Marjorie Adair Neunes Gratton, MERRY CHRISTMAS to the descendants of the QUINET -- NEUENS FAMILY (December 1982), from Shirley & Harold Tisdell, 29492 County Road 181, Paynesville, MN 56362 (grandmat@tkdlink.net), 27 December, 2002.



On 7 January 2002 I [Robert L. Quinnett] used Microsoft Expedia Maps, http://www.expedia.com/, in an attempt to find "Minuex", France. It does not exist. The closest town by sound to both "Min-New" (above) and "Minuex" (also above) is "Menoux" in Franche-Comté, south of the Alsace-Lorraine region and half-way across France from Paris. A search in the Internet using Cousins Gen-Web (http://cousinsgenweb.francegenweb.org/) revealed that no one appears to be researching the name of Quinet in Menoux, so no sudden solution to this had so far developed. It would not be until 16 June 2004 that I would be forced to look at Menoux again.



On 16 June 2004 I received information that Pierre (a weaver) and Marie (Marie-Françoise GRANDGIER) were married on 13 February 1811 at Menoux, Haute-Saône.: LDS, Family Search microfilm #1071343, information from Jacques Charbonnier, jacques.charbonnier@free.fr, email dated 16 June 2004, Subject: Famille QUINET ou ... extra-terrestres ? ... SUITE and email dated 22 June 2004, Subject: La famille QUINET-GRANGIER ... Modificatif ! This second email corrected the spelling of the surname of Marie-Françoise to GRANGIER.

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The History of Franche-Comté [from http://www.french-at-a-touch.com/French_Regions/Franche-Comte/franche-comte_9.htm]

Franche-Comté was originally a part of Burgundy <../Burgandy/burgundy_4.htm>. Burgundy originally consisted of several historic kingdoms, counties, duchies, and a province situated within France. During the 5th century AD, the Bourguignons, a Germanic tribe, invaded and established the first kingdom of Bourgogne in France. The kingdom expanded until it included most of what is now southeastern France and part of present-day Switzerland.

The Bourguignons were conquered in 534 by the Merovingien <../../French_History/history_The_Merovingiens_481-751.htm> rulers of the Franks and were later absorbed into the Carolingian <../../French_History/history_the_carolingiens.htm> Empire. In 843 Burgundy was divided between Charles I of France and his brother, Emperor Lothair I. In 879, the kingdom of Provence, or Cisjurane Burgundy, was organized in the south, and in 888 the kingdom of Trans-Jurane Burgundy was created in the north.

After the new kingdom of Burgundy <../Burgandy/burgundy_4.htm> emerged in 888, its kings secured very little control over the local counts in Cisjurane Burgundy. In 933 the two kingdoms were united as the second kingdom of Burgundy, with the capital at Arles <../Provence-Alpes/provence-alps-cote_d_azur_town_info.htm>. The lack of control persisted after the kingdom was annexed, in 1033, by the Holy Roman emperor Conrad II.

Two other divisions of this area, the duchy of Burgundy and the Free County of Burgundy, or Franche-Comté, were also established. The name ?Franche-Comté? came about as follows: In 1127 a local count, Raynald III, refused to do homage to the German king Lothair II. After 10 years of conflict, Raynald was victorious. Thereafter, he was the franc-Comté or "free count". Raynald?s territory then became known as the Franche-Comté.

From 1295 to 1477 Franche-Comté was influenced by France; after 1482 it passed to the Spanish line of the Habsburg family, and in 1678, as the result of the Treaty of Nijmegen, it was permanently joined to France as a French province. In 1790, Franche-Comté, like the rest of France, was broken up into départements.

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Menoux has 229 inhabitants and is located in the Canton of Amance, Arrondissement of Vesoul, Département of Haute-Saône (70), and Region of Franche-Comté in France. Its Postal Code is 70160.

Pierre-Jean married Marie-Françoise GRANGIER on 13 Feb 1811 in Menoux, Département de Haute-Saône (Franche-Comté), France. Marie-Françoise (daughter of Jean-Baptiste GRANGIER and Anne-Françoise COLARD) was born on 19 Mar 1788 in Menoux, Département de Haute-Saône (Franche-Comté), France; died between 1860 and 1870 in Fredonia, Ozaukee, Wisconsin, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Baptised: 7 Jul 1813, Menoux, Département de Haute-Saône (Franche-Comté), France
• Occupation: 1850–1860; Farmer

Notes:

Nicholas did not come to the United States with the rest of the family. He came at a later time after his service in the army.": Robert Leishman papers in possession of Robert L. Quinnett.



Nicolas was apparently conscripted into the army at age 20 (1833) for seven years under the "Law of 1832 of Marshal Soult." Consequently, the earliest he could have rejoined his family in the United States would have been 1840 at age 27. : Jacques Charbonnier, email 23 July 2004, Subject: Re: La famille QUINET-GRANGIER ... Commentaires ! [He must have joined the family in New York, since the family probably moved to Wisconsin Territory between 1842 and 1844 -- see notes for Pierre, father of Nicolas, on the rationale for when the family moved to Wisconsin Territory. Apparently, he met Mathilde in New York either before or at the marriage of his sister Pauline to Moses Renaud, but he married her, apparently, in Wisconsin -- RLQ]

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"About 1875 Nicholas homesteaded a farm in Rooks County, Kansas and the family was there for about three years, and that is where Nicholas died in 1878. He was cleaning out a dug well and gas that sometimes accumulated in these wells killed him. Archique Quinette and another brother pulled him out and he lived four days.": [This information seems to have been furnished to Leishman by Jennie Philpott, daughter of Emily Frances Quinet, since the same information is in her letter to Archie Eli Quinnett of 29 July 1948, letter in the possession of Robert L. Quinnett.]

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"While in the Ozaukee County court house at Port Washington, WI., Weldon [family member of source--RLQ] found a map of 1873 - 1874 showing that N. Quinet owned property near the town of Waubeka, once the Fredonia Post Office.": Marjorie Adair Neunes Gratton, MERRY CHRISTMAS to the descendants of the QUINET -- NEUENS FAMILY (December 1982), p . 3.

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1860 Census of Fredonia, WI, from Robert Leishman papers in possession of Robert L. Quinnett:



House #1128, Family #995, Nicholus Quinette, 51, farmer, b. France





Mathilda 29 b. Canada

Minallie 12 b. Wisconsin

Octavie 10 b. Wisconsin

Mathilda 8 b. Wisconsin

Archie 5 b. Wisconsin

Pauldina 3 b. Wisconsin

Clarice 7/12 b. Wisconsin



1870 Census of Fredonia, WI, from Robert Leishman papers in possession of Robert L. Quinnett:



House #154, Family #154, Nic Quinet, 66, farmer, b. France

Mathilde 42 b. Canada

Archal 15 b. Wisconsin

Isaac 7 b. Wisconsin

Michel 5 b. Wisconsin

Nicholus 3 b. Wisconsin

Poldinier 13 b. Wisconsin

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Nicolas-Joseph married Marie-Marguerite RENAULT on 24 Dec 1845 in Washington, Wisconsin, United States. Marie-Marguerite was born about 1828 in France; died in 1920. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Baptised: 6 Nov 1815, Menoux, Département de Haute-Saône (Franche-Comté), France

Other Events and Attributes:

• FamilySearch ID: L839-T28
• Baptised: 17 Mar 1817, Menoux, Département de Haute-Saône (Franche-Comté), France

Claude married William Henry THOMPSON in 1839 in Syracuse, Onondaga, New York, United States. William (son of William THOMPSON and Fasmie RUINNET) was born about 1813 in Ireland; died on 4 Feb 1890 in Wrightstown, Brown, Wisconsin, United States; was buried on 22 Feb 1890 in Wrightstown, Brown, Wisconsin, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Marie married John HIGGINSSyracuse, Onondaga, New York, United States. John was born in 1816; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Appoline married Moise-Joseph RENAUD on 12 Jul 1841 in New York, New York, United States. Moise-Joseph was born in 1816; died in 1903. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Francois-Xavier was found as the first child of Pierre and Marie in the LDS records by Jacques Charbonnier, but was never listed by anyone else, and there is no further sign of him. On the other hand, William (Guillaume) was listed by Robert Leishman as a child of Pierre and Marie, and Jennie Monahan in her letter to my father on 29 July 1948 commented a couple of times about "William" coming to America in 1832 with her mother, Emily Frances. Jacques Charbonnier found nothing about him in the LDS records. There is no other sign or mention of him. Could Francois-Xavier and Guillaume be the same person? It would be nothing new in French and French-Canadian genealogy for a person to undergo a name change in the course of his or her life. In fact, my own mother was baptized as Bernadette Joanna (Latin entry) but was known throughout her life as Jeannette Bernadette. In any event, we still know nothing more about William or Francois-Xavier in America.: Robert L. Quinnett

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In the United States she was known as Emily Frances. She and Bevier/Bivert moved from NY to Brown County, WI [??]: Robert Leishman papers in possession of Robert L. Quinnett. [Sr. Dolores Wagner lists place of marriage as Washington County, WI, in her Family Group Record of Jean Pierre Quinet and Marie Granje, dated 11 Oct 95.]

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"She (Aunt Jennie) went on to explain that her mother [Emily Frances] had been converted from the Catholic Church when a young woman. So consequently her first husband may not have been Catholic either. Although Aunt Jennie said she had her children all christened in the Catholic Church because her relatives had feared that the children would be lost if she didn't do so. But not one of her children ever adherred [sic] to the Catholic faith. They are all Protestants. Becoming Protestants through conversion when they were still young people. She said she herself had become converted through reading the New Testament of her Bible after asking God to show her the way. [Is this the French New Testament belonging to Jennie that Gertrude was so diligently looking for in the 1940s and which I have?--Robert L. Quinnett] You will read all this when you read her letter and probably understand it all much better by so doing. She also tells that her mother was divorced from her father who was great-grandmother's third husband.": Letter from Gertrude Hagler (concerning Jennie Philpott) to AEQ, 16 May 1940, in the possession of Robert L. Quinnett.

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In WI, according to a granddaughter, "two men came and talked to him [Bevier] in his language and he deserted Grandma. Now I am not sure if aunt Frances had been born or if Grandma was just expecting her so maybe when Grandma married Mr. Diacon, he adopted her.": Letter in possession of Robert L. Quinnett.



After the death of Diacon in 1865, she moved with her family to Kossuth County, Iowa where she married and divorced Joseph Monahan in 1870. She had a homestead 12 miles from Algona, Iowa, which she later traded for land in Kansas: Robert Leishman papers in possession of Robert L. Quinnett.



After marrying Foley in Michigan, they moved to Coffey County, KS, where they lived on a farm near Lebo, KS. They separated and she went to Canada where she died: Robert Leishman papers in possession of Robert L. Quinnett.

Emilie-Francoise married Jean-Baptiste BIVERT on 23 Dec 1845 in Washington, Wisconsin, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Emilie-Francoise married Henry Louis DIACON in 1849 in Brown, Wisconsin, United States. Henry was born in 1817; died in 1865. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Emilie-Francoise married Joseph MOHANAN on 10 May 1870 in Kossuth, Iowa, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Emilie-Francoise married William FOLEYStephenson, Menominee, Michigan, United States. William was born in 1834; died in 1921. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: 1850–1860; Farmer

Notes:

In USA he was called Joseph Peter Quinette. He and Catherine Parks and children lived in Fredonia, Ozaukee County, WI, in 1860 and at Morrison, Brown County, WI, in 1870: Censuses of 1860 and 1870 in Robert Leishman papers in possession of Robert L. Quinnett.

Joseph married Kathryn PARKS on 12 May 1855 in Morrison, Brown, Wisconsin, United States. Kathryn was born on 8 Dec 1838 in Ireland; died on 17 Dec 1896; was buried in Morrison, Brown, Wisconsin, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 1880–1910, Wrightstown, Brown, Wisconsin, United States

Family/Spouse: Carl Gottlieb MUELLER. Carl was born on 7 Jan 1834 in Saxony, Prussia; died in 1886 in Wrightstown, Brown, Wisconsin, United States; was buried in Wrightstown, Brown, Wisconsin, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Residence: 1870, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, United States
• Residence: 1880, Brighton, Marathon, Wisconsin, United States
• Residence: 1905, Cleveland, Marathon, Wisconsin, United States
• Residence: 1910, Fenwood, Marathon, Wisconsin, United States

Family/Spouse: Joseph SAWYER. Joseph was born on 7 Apr 1840 in Oconto, Wisconsin Territory, United States; died on 21 Jun 1924 in Fenwood, Marathon, Wisconsin, United States; was buried in Stratford, Marathon, Wisconsin, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• FamilySearch ID: KVVH-BC6
• Residence: 1882, Ashland, Ashland, Wisconsin, United States

Paulina married Mathias Balthazar FIRMENICH on 11 Feb 1867 in Holland, Brown, Wisconsin, United States. Mathias (son of Johann Peter FIRMENICH and Anna Marie VOISSEL) was born on 12 Feb 1842 in Eicks, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; died on 26 Sep 1931 in Ashland, Ashland, Wisconsin, United States; was buried in Ashland, Ashland, Wisconsin, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: 1870; Farm laborer
• Occupation: 1910, Carpenter, Laramie, Wyoming, United States; Farmer, General Farm
• Residence: 1910, Carpenter, Laramie, Wyoming, United States

Samuel married Mary BEATTIE on 12 Apr 1882 in Brown, Wisconsin, United States. Mary was born about 1858 in De Pere, Brown, Wisconsin, United States; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Jane Mary Thompson
• Name: Margaret Thompson
• Residence: 1880–1930, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, United States
• Death: 23 Dec 1935, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, United States

Johanna married Francois FRANSWAY on 16 Nov 1870 in Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, United States. Francois was born on 21 Sep 1852 in Quebec, Canada; died on 24 May 1930 in Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, United States; was buried on 26 May 1930 in Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Lisa Thompson
• Residence: 1880, Wrightstown, Brown, Wisconsin, United States
• Residence: 1910, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, United States; 842 Drew St
• Residence: 1930, Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States; 664 Astor St

Eliza married Louis J MAHLER on 9 Sep 1876 in Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, United States. Louis was born about 1852 in Germany; died before 1910. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]