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- In addition to being a weaver (tisserand) it seems that Pierre was also an iron monger and dealer in hardware. Jacques Charbonnier, who discovered this information, explains it this way: "(Translation by RLQ) "On the subject of Pierre, before he was married at age 28 he worked as a weaver at Contréglise in the house of his father or another person in his family .... He was perhaps an apprentice, then a companion, but he was not the'patron (boss)'. After his marriage he set up his home at Menoux, the village of his wife, and it is there that he had his children. At Menoux, he worked for his own family and [apparently --RLQ] wanted to take on another more profitable occupation and became a hardware merchant, an iron monger. I have often run across this change of occupation among my ancestors after their marriage. After arriving in the US, he worked where he could, perhaps odd jobs downtown to start ... but in the countryside there was a place for them, so he became a farmer as indicated in the census.: Jacques Charbonnier (email, [email protected], 23 June 2004, Subject: Re: La famille QUINET-GRANGIER ... Commentaires !)
Dates of marriages of children place La Famille Quinet in Wisconsin between 1841 (marriage of Polly) and 1845 (marriages of Nicolas and Emily Frances), and the births of the first two children of Moise-Joseph Runnoe and Pauline Quinet further narrows the move to Wisconsin to the period between May 1842 (Josephine Runnoe born in NY) and 3 Nov 1844 (Isaac Runnoe born in WI). This, of course, assumes that the extended family all moved together (quite a logical assumption in those days). See individual records.
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The following -- together with wrong turns and dead ends -- traces a research project to find where the Quinet ancestors came from in France. The project did not culminate until 16 June 2004: Robert L. Quinnett.
According to Jennie Philpott, who died in Canada in 1951, the Quinet family came from a place which sounded to her like "Min New." : Letter from Jennie Philpott in the possession of Robert L. Quinnett. She was recalling what she had heard as a child. She could neither read nor write French, and that was the best way she could pronounce the place her mother used to talk about. If one measures about 20 miles north of the approximate edge of the city limits of Paris, there is a place called Mouy on the Thèrain River about 12-13 miles SE of Beauvais. If one measures from the center of Paris, it hits on the Oise River somewhere between Chembly and Chantilly, but angling it a little to the west hits at a town called Mery-sur-Oise. On 25 March 1999 Robert L. Quinnett checked for telephone numbers belonging to anyone named Quinet in the area referred to above, namely in the valley of the Oise (Val d'Oise--95000). Only one Quinet (Jean-Baptiste) was found in the town of Pontoise @ 01 30 31 16 72. Some names similar to Quinet (orthographic) were found, however: a Quenet in Pontoise and Chainay, Cuennet and Quesné on up the Thèrain river in Beauvais
The two towns above don't sound like "Min-New." Mouy sounds like "Moo-ee" and Mery sounds like "Mair-ee". Neither fit, but it's possible that Jennie, a child, misunderstood an entire conversation or comment and that the word or words referred to something else entirely, not a location from which the family came. Also, by the time she wrote the letter in the forties, she might have forgotten what it sounded like.
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In 1982, a descendant of Octavia Quinet and Peter Neuens, stated that the Quinet Family came from "Minuex" France, close to Paris: Marjorie Adair Neunes Gratton, MERRY CHRISTMAS to the descendants of the QUINET -- NEUENS FAMILY (December 1982), from Shirley & Harold Tisdell, 29492 County Road 181, Paynesville, MN 56362 ([email protected]), 27 December, 2002.
On 7 January 2002 I [Robert L. Quinnett] used Microsoft Expedia Maps, http://www.expedia.com/, in an attempt to find "Minuex", France. It does not exist. The closest town by sound to both "Min-New" (above) and "Minuex" (also above) is "Menoux" in Franche-Comté, south of the Alsace-Lorraine region and half-way across France from Paris. A search in the Internet using Cousins Gen-Web (http://cousinsgenweb.francegenweb.org/) revealed that no one appears to be researching the name of Quinet in Menoux, so no sudden solution to this had so far developed. It would not be until 16 June 2004 that I would be forced to look at Menoux again.
On 16 June 2004 I received information that Pierre (a weaver) and Marie (Marie-Françoise GRANDGIER) were married on 13 February 1811 at Menoux, Haute-Saône.: LDS, Family Search microfilm #1071343, information from Jacques Charbonnier, [email protected], email dated 16 June 2004, Subject: Famille QUINET ou ... extra-terrestres ? ... SUITE and email dated 22 June 2004, Subject: La famille QUINET-GRANGIER ... Modificatif ! This second email corrected the spelling of the surname of Marie-Françoise to GRANGIER.
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The History of Franche-Comté [from http://www.french-at-a-touch.com/French_Regions/Franche-Comte/franche-comte_9.htm]
Franche-Comté was originally a part of Burgundy <../Burgandy/burgundy_4.htm>. Burgundy originally consisted of several historic kingdoms, counties, duchies, and a province situated within France. During the 5th century AD, the Bourguignons, a Germanic tribe, invaded and established the first kingdom of Bourgogne in France. The kingdom expanded until it included most of what is now southeastern France and part of present-day Switzerland.
The Bourguignons were conquered in 534 by the Merovingien <../../French_History/history_The_Merovingiens_481-751.htm> rulers of the Franks and were later absorbed into the Carolingian <../../French_History/history_the_carolingiens.htm> Empire. In 843 Burgundy was divided between Charles I of France and his brother, Emperor Lothair I. In 879, the kingdom of Provence, or Cisjurane Burgundy, was organized in the south, and in 888 the kingdom of Trans-Jurane Burgundy was created in the north.
After the new kingdom of Burgundy <../Burgandy/burgundy_4.htm> emerged in 888, its kings secured very little control over the local counts in Cisjurane Burgundy. In 933 the two kingdoms were united as the second kingdom of Burgundy, with the capital at Arles <../Provence-Alpes/provence-alps-cote_d_azur_town_info.htm>. The lack of control persisted after the kingdom was annexed, in 1033, by the Holy Roman emperor Conrad II.
Two other divisions of this area, the duchy of Burgundy and the Free County of Burgundy, or Franche-Comté, were also established. The name ?Franche-Comté? came about as follows: In 1127 a local count, Raynald III, refused to do homage to the German king Lothair II. After 10 years of conflict, Raynald was victorious. Thereafter, he was the franc-Comté or "free count". Raynald?s territory then became known as the Franche-Comté.
From 1295 to 1477 Franche-Comté was influenced by France; after 1482 it passed to the Spanish line of the Habsburg family, and in 1678, as the result of the Treaty of Nijmegen, it was permanently joined to France as a French province. In 1790, Franche-Comté, like the rest of France, was broken up into départements.
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Menoux has 229 inhabitants and is located in the Canton of Amance, Arrondissement of Vesoul, Département of Haute-Saône (70), and Region of Franche-Comté in France. Its Postal Code is 70160.
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